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    February 10, 2013
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.. there were no towns, and i could see us just sitting their like we had forever so we started
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playing out camps to build rangers. so you have to understand the context of my level of where we were triet after two tours of vietnam combat a was to be a soldier because we had done all these things in vietnam and the only thing we knew is when we went to the gulf war we were so good and the reagan dollars and what happened to america's military i remember being asked after the war by several think-tank groups that came in to talk about me.
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did you worry about where the enemy was? i didn't care. i just want to know what they were because it would be any that we ran into. it's been lost of where we were and what was going on at the different levels and never seeing any of these briefings. never seeing any of these briefings september, october, november. we didn't really know we were going to attack iraq sometime in december. we were defending saudi arabia and wasn't until sometime in december that we started working at shortstop's level they were
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on to offensive war planning but not at my level. so it just -- i want to know if it is drinking the kool-aid or just understanding what was going on. when you are a colonel it's hard to envision mud goes on in the president of the united states's mind. i ran off guard. >> i'm going to accept both of those as vivid endorsements. i want to know your thoughts on the revolution and military affairs. i see a little bit of the kool-aid in may be that president bush wanted to
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maintain for the stability whereas in trademark and square there was no danger to the outside region if you will. so, given that, i am skeptical of the revolution of the military affairs so not even occur all but a captain such that i see things as capabilities. so the communication capability certainly would have been in the conflict astronomical in the advance and i am sure the general can speak to that. but i was wondering what your thoughts are with respect to the gulf war of planning for the end and whether you think this is a rell luft revolution of military affairs.
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>> for two reasons, the first is that we have a lot of memories as mentioned before. if i ask you to remember what we saw on tv 22 years ago, remember what you saw over the last 22 years, not 22 years ago but one of the things that was repeated on the television screen is of course really remarkable images. the two points about this, that's quite impressive and that's new and is clearly the enemy didn't have. but the second point i think our first of all the pentagon didn't show you any video. that's bad puerto rico. and the percentage of the weapons that were smart weapons and the first gulf war more than
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anything the iraqis had was remarkably small compared to the impression the pentagon gave in their military briefings where the only showed pictures of smart bombs and missiles and things flying through windows. there was a very tiny percentage of the actions actually expended. so i don't think that this was so much a revolution of military affairs as a vivid demonstration as you pointed out on just how proficient the united states was in waging a war especially against a less proficient adversary but it was a more philosophical way and that is and the ultimate goal of the conflict was a political goal so there for the military planning involves both smart and some weapons and they were designed with a traditional military
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conclusion which in truth wasn't revolutionary at all which was getting the enemy to do what we wanted. so i can't see the revolutionary military affairs. i am getting a sign from the back. >> as i alluded to the revolutionary military affairs was something that had come at the time goldwater nichols had been passed that tried to join the military, and was all the was talked about back in the 80's it was this revolution of military affairs and what it meant to me is finally after coming out of vietnam we have
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thinkers in the military that had worked through what it took to wage war at a high level using all the tools in the toolbox. the army, navy but when someone says why you have the four air forces, because we need them. the marines have an air force, the navy has an air force. but when you are a war planner are you fighting it was wonderful. i thought we had received from the american taxpayers was the unbelievable tools now the smart weapons were just 117 but we
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could go on either all the was there was a combination of hardware and a combination of unbelievable training that had occurred since the vietnam war, all of the things that went in that said did you worry that the enemy? no, i just didn't want to shoot my own. >> one more question. >> professor. >> expressing the argument the bush policy is governed for the post cold war that one with a question they do show up on the battlefield as possibilities
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with missiles around the region and just beginning a study abroad program there were some french commentators that he had missiles he hadn't unveiled yet that this was not the case. i guess my question was as the war starts and ends and other things wish to set precedents when going forward in other words once they are in the conversation, is this something that is looked at as well or is it not through the war and peace? >> that is a really good question the answer is yes and no to that i would love to hear your thoughts with these concerns, the biological weapons concerns are clearly concerns on
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the battlefield. but at the highest level of diplomacy to my mind that is the secretary of state and presidential level george bush didn't seem to be concerned about keeping iraq from using the wmd as a way to remind others not to use them with one exception. president bush wrote a letter to saddam hussein on the eve of the war. by the way, they were not in the line of communications so this is rather unusual. he gave a letter to the secretary of state who met with him in geneva and the letter in the archive is quite remarkable. it said in no uncertain terms if you use nuclear weapons or if there is any terrorist attack against any american ally anywhere in the entire world, we are going to presume that you
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did it and we are going to respond to nuclear-weapons. they use the catch phrases in the fullest measure of our arms. so the sense of not setting the precedent for the conflict but telling any of leader just before the conflict begins, the military conflict begins that here is the red line that is explicitly done by the bush administration. >> one brief comment. it came as a surprise to the international community just how far down saddam hussein was once the inspectors had access to iraq following the gulf war. while it may not have been first and foremost in the minds of the planners before the invasion that began may fixation on the international community leader
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that he had achieved the large nuclear-weapons that nobody knew much about the time. >> with the been standing there trying to figure out how to answer this? as a brigade commander i was convinced that we were going to get slimed, they were going to hit us with chemical weapons and we were so well-trained the only thing that we really needed was more water to put within the chemicals to cleanse the tanks and personnel carriers and everything very quickly so we could get back into the fight. as we ended up getting 5,000-gallon japanese water trails as part of the formation and we trained and trained on how we would decontaminate from
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the chemicals. the gulf war lasted 96 hours and i fought for 30 days. schwarzkopf's conception to convince the iraqis that was the death of the region and was in the main coalition. if they cut them to my right and i have the right flank where the forces that had the same tanks which was always kind of interesting. for 30 days i'm running up with the thousands of soldiers trying to elicit a response and we are clearing the mines and going through the trenches and the attack was going to come right up this is why it is moving in the 18th corps in the west.
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every time we were in mock three which was everything that the gas mask. we had a rubber booties and suits and gloves and a mask of the carriers ready to put them on because we knew we were going to get slimed one of these times and it just never happened. so diplomatic news of the letter for the president that saddam had talked up the nukes maybe they interpreted that also to be a better not see - because they had released their chemicals down to the battalion level and we knew that. so anybody over there that got, who would have threatened could have retaliated with the chemical weapons. there are so many levels. for all of you of cadets that
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are here, thank you for coming because the levels of interaction has been unbelievable. the president was thinking about what he was doing all these different levels and then i was out there at the end. just tell me what to do. >> i will jump in as the boss. [laughter] thank you very much. [applause] i happened to be on the trip the you highlighted in the video with the president and mrs. bush to see the troops before the ground war started and the white house staff was trained to use
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gas masks and put on clothing so we were very concerned about the use of chemicals and very bad things but with that telling you are about to have good things if you would join us outside we have some refreshments and you will have a chance to buy the book and have it autographed by the editor and we thank you very much for coming. we are proud of the school and crawled to be part of the texas a&m university so i will leave you reminding all things texas a&m center-right excellence, integrity, leadership, loyalty, respect and selfless service and they are personified in george h. w. bush and we are fortunate to be the school that makes us a&m. [applause]
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book tv is on the road in philadelphia at the university of pennsylvania, and we are interviewing some professors who also happened to the authors and we want to introduce you to the dean of the university pennsylvania school of social policy and practice. this is richard on your screen. one of his books, his most recent is called "the third fly on government programs don't work and a blueprint for change." and doctor i'm here from the government and i am here to help you is that not true? >> not true. >> why not? >> because most government social programs, which is designed to help people don't actually help people and in some instances it is a little more than i hate saying this about viet do good of full employment act and lots of people would like to help but at the end of
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the day if you look at whether the needle has been moved and people have been held by substantial government programs and substantial amounts of money, the bottomline is very rarely are people helped. and i felt as a story worth telling. the idea came to me as i was being smuggled into the back door of the state house in the state of hawaii -- part of that was subsidized by the federal government under the individuals with disabilities education act. the rest was being paid for by the tax payers of hawaii and we had been there for about two years to see whether the half a million dollars was actually --
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lots of services were being provided and lots of money was diverted in inappropriate ways. the commissioner of education for the state of hawaii had given to hundred 50,000-dollar grant for the education. that seemed a little bit odd at face value and it turned out he was having a relationship with the commissioner people giving 30, 40, 50,000-dollar grant and i wouldn't have written the book if i thought was an isolated thing but i had been in the field and the kept seeing at again and again and again and thought maybe it's time to tell the story.
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they don't want to cut the funding and that doesn't do a whole lot of good. when i start to the chapter by saying it is sacred nobody wants to cut it, all of the positive education is gone by the time children. >> why is that? >> because the education readiness underlining the social problem that is means tested and that is the key to some sort of incoming eligibility or special eligibility and an enormous amount to the means testing and
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eligibility testing leaving very little money for the actual programs and support programs and of being a low dose, very minimal, and they are not sufficient to change the educational outcomes of children. just providing that coming from violent homes and violent neighborhoods, poverty, homelessness for his sufficiency, you just can't overcome those providing the head start education program. so, that's where the book began, and it's an interesting book, i'm sure you'll get on fox tv but that wasn't my goal. my goal wasn't to be a critic. so i said there are some social programs that are quite effective and maybe we can learn a lesson from them and the big
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quake is in writing the book that i conducted and bored to death my wife and my children was let me sit down with everybody that i know and tell me the government programs that had been the most effective in say the last 65 years, almost everyone in my academics they were wrong. no evidence. the program's were sort of in chronological order and social security, the g.i. bill in 1944 and medicare in 1965. now, there will be some pushback against that. even usa today had an editorial that said social security is a pay-as-you-go program. no, it's not. it can never go broke, provided that you don't take the trust fund and spend it on government debt which is what we've done for 60 years but social security has all but ended poverty among those over 65.
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medicare is all but ended a significant health care programs and those are the 65 carried and the g.i. bill gets very little credit in 2012 for being the key social policy that built the american middle class people and the american middle class was built on basic components of the g.i. bill, access to education, affordable access to education. the jihadi can go to any school they want to. the money went to them and not the school's commitment was affordable housing. if you roll the clock back in 2012, why is the middle class suffering? we don't have access to affordable high-quality education. students have taken on too much debt, and my son's come 32 and 38 years of age who have good
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incomes, more than mine, couldn't even buy a house because the price of housing exceeds their income and they are in the top 10% in the united states. it's no longer accessible to the middle class. the middle class can't buy housing. the middle class as we've known it ceases to exist so that as part two of the book. that really took the longest period to get my head around was okay if you know these programs don't work and you have a good fix on why and you know they do work and have a good fix on why, you are capable of developing a social program or blueprint for a program and that is kind of tricky. you would like to help children,
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you would like to deal with the socially disadvantaged children and the roadblock it is not in the political times on the left of center or the right of center or right on the center our government is not about to help children by directing to their parents so one of the reasons the programs fail is we give so little to the parents to overcome the social disadvantage. so the next stop how do you have children if you can't get the money to them before they are 18 and the end result was you can't. you have to wait until the air 18. so i begged and borrowed and adapted the notion of the futures account, which is based on the principle that every year a child was alive he would deposit $3,000 into a futures account at age 18 the child
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would have access or chronological adult would have access and you could use the money for two things, not surprisingly based on the g.i. bill, access to higher education. it doesn't have to be a university, and/or you can use the money for housing. with accumulated of $54,000 a year. that's what it would cost you for one a year or four years at a state-supported institution and $54,000 interestingly enough, is 20%, a little bit more than 20% for the median sales price of a house in the united states. so it's the new g.i. bill for american children and on 12. it isn't means tested, everybody can get it and it can be used for two things that are
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important. one, although i can't have children from zero to 18i can set the game at 18. it happened -- at least at 18 would be the will to be a homeowner and get an advanced education. the second aspect of it is to rebuild the middle class. i don't see a rise and that the election is open. we have heard everything they have to say. not one said anything intelligent about this is how you rebuild the american middle class. so it tells three stories. what doesn't work, what does work, what could work and how to make it work. >> professor, do you come at
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this from a liberal or conservative point of view? you mentioned fox news. >> practical. i worked in the policy washington and i'm not particularly interested in taking an ideological review. i'm interested in results. the danger of writing a book like this is coming and i've already discovered it, my extremely liberal friends wish i had never written the book and my conservative friends wish we didn't spend that much of the government money. if i would be true to the data i've done the book i wanted to do. >> why government programs don't work and the blueprint for change. it's written by the university of pennsylvania's richard gellis who serves in the social policy and practice. thank you for your time today.
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>> thank you caviness and mcnally program from the book tv archives. the late cbs news 60 minutes commentator andy rooney. he recounted his experiences during world war ii when he was in his early 20s. he was a reporter in europe covering the front along with other future cbs colleagues such as walter cronkite, edward mirko. it can be passed away on november 4, 2011 at the age of 92. this is a little under half an hour. >> he's also the author of numerous best-selling books. tonight he will discuss the latest contribution mauney war. he said if it fills up with memories, - would have been over before i was 30 because i would have spent years reporting on the ghastly things that happened
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during world war ii. please welcome indy 500 rooney as he discusses my war. [applause] >> i am to speak for a few minutes and then you can ask me questions if you have any. about the memory thing come anybody i age begins to have trouble with their memory. i was in columbus ohio speaking to some society the state runs and the night before i went to a restaurant in columbus and i got up in front of them and i said there is no doubt you lose some of your memory that you make up with that with the experience you have. i said i wish i didn't lose as much memory as i had. i ate at a restaurant in columbus last night and i wish i could remember the name because if i want to come to columbus again i want to remember not to
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go there. [laughter] >> it's been a great experience for me writing this book and having it published. i'm not keen being out here selling it. i don't malae the meek writers write the book and then go out and sell it. i remember thinking years ago i never did this. i never sold anything and i objected of writers that went on radio and television shows to sell their book by softened on that over the years and i am quite surprised at what a pleasant experience doing this is. i meet somebody i know for someone who knows someone i know. i went to a little bookstore in jersey a couple weeks ago and they had 400 people. i mean, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. [laughter] i do enjoy this and even the
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signing is not as onerous as i thought i was going to be. this is an interesting proposition. peter osnos is the publisher. he has a new house called public affairs which he made the mistake of selling all one keyword with no gap in between public and affairs so any time you put it down for somebody they think he made a mistake but that is the name of the publishing company. peter had enough confidence in this book to reissue it and he said i'm going to get tom brokaw to write an introduction and i said peter, please don't do that, he is a friend but with the success of the book he had she's one of the busiest men in the world, and this is literally true. he probably gets 50 requests of
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a to appear at something like this. i said please don't dewitt. peter osnos being a salesman for years ignored my request any way and you can see he did write a very nice introduction forex. after that -- my son and is a correspondent at abc news working out of los angeles and so i spent the introduction to them and he called me back the next day and he said it's nice to you already wrote an introduction to your book and i don't read preferences or introductions and that is a lot of pages for me to go to before i get to the first chapter of the book so i have a suggestion for peter osnos. tell him if he wants to sell the book that bad to put brokaw's name on the jacket but don't run
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his half foreword degette people ask me why i wrote the book about the warrant, was it a comfort experience in the waking up in this wedding. i did not. i saw an awful lot of the war and to double parts but it's never been any kind of a ghost in my past. i wrote the book because i was important in my life and i had an experience that very few people have ever had even people in the army because i could go anywhere. i had a cheap and i could go anywhere the action must so i saw more of the action except for the other correspondence that are with me. unlike today where the pentagon wants to know what questions you're going to ask before you go to the front, eisenhower was
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smart enough to know the best public relations he could have for his men was to let the press operate freely and that's what happened and it's why we know as much about world war ii as we do whereas the gulf war we almost know nothing about because the pentagon put a clamp almost on any kind of information coming out of their. if anybody wants to ask me a question we will do that and sign books to read if there are no questions, get out. >> i noticed if you're flying on the b-17. did you know what general of jimmy doolittle, did you ever meet him? >> i did meet him, yes, but she was in the european theater of operations very briefly, and of course the raid was in the be 29 but i didn't know him. i knew some good generals but he
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was not one of them. >> to commemorate the 50th anniversary? >> i did, yes. it was an incredible experience. i am not a person that gets emotional easily, but no one. i don't care whether they were there or not can go to that cemetery overlooking the beaches where all of those young men died without being moved. i've been there for five times and i've never failed to cry. i mean, it is just such a sad thing to see all of those rows of crosses and stars of david and think of all the young men under their that didn't have a chance to live the life that i've left. it's very depressing. recently -- this isn't a popular thought that life had come of a lifetime bothered by the fact that every brave is marked with
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a cross or star of david. if i had been killed all i would have those over me and would be wrong because i am neither christian or jewish and i imagine there's an awful lot of men under those markers whose faith is not represented by the cross or the star of david. >> did you know ernie pyle? >> i knew him well above. the first army said of the press can and there were 25 reporters traveling around in the first army today would take over the chateau in france and later in germany and we would use -- they've always got a nice morning and we would use the dining room and then we set up our typewriters and we use that
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for workspace and then they set up seven or eight times for the 25 or 30 correspondence for someplace adjacent to the ch√Ęteau so that you share a tent with six or seven other reporters. often i got in with ernie pyle. it's funny to have a legend as a person that you remember as a good friend. he is not alleged to me, just a good guy and a great reporter and so many of us should go out and get the action where they were shooting each other and he would stay in and he would drive to the rear and first thing you know we would compare stories the next day and he got a better story interviewing those at the tent shoe repair of italians and we got at the front high was
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with him juan de and from the deals had left and i was reading and he was reading and there was the dirt floor and so suddenly we noticed there were be is and they were going down more into this hole in the ground and we watched and neither of us said anything. we watched her these bees and pretty soon i got up and i stuffed some dirt over the whole. obviously there was a high of down there. so we were both lying there looking and then they came again and they started circling around and circling around, and the same flawed obviously came to vote bernie and me at the same time. here were these bees, their families out there and they couldn't get in and finally hawken she said let them out and
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they were free again. but she was a great man dying. i had a lot of good friends in the eighth air force in europe and we have been lifelong friends. a great friend was in the associated press and wrote a book called the guadalcanal diary before he can to europe. under those conditions was easy to make a difference. i had a good friend and none of you i see here are old enough to remember one of the great reporters there ever was named george hicks and he was a good friend of mine. a lot of the correspondence had to double what but i had my own so i could to anybody that i wanted. the reporters generally do not like to go out with somebody else because they don't like to have the story that one of the
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other reporters have the never mind going out with me because my work, and appeared in the stars and stripes which was circulated to the 2,000,007 men europe but it didn't appear to the united states so i was no competition they could get the same story and they didn't mind at all so i always had somebody going with me. >> it's been a couple of years since i've read the book. >> everybody always goes for the negative stuff for. i did. in high school she was a hero of mine. i thought that he was the ultimate writer, she was the writer that i wanted to be like and then i met ernest hemingway and he turned out to be the biggest jerk that i met during the war. it doesn't diminish some of the good writing that he did but then subsequently, she wrote
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some pretty bad books which confirmed my opinion of him that i had gained during the war. but i met him several times but we were in a little hotel outside of paris about 25 kilometers outside of paris and of the hotel had taken in all of the correspondence and hemingway had gotten there in advance of the army and there were only about 35 rooms in the hotel. so some of the reporters couldn't get rooms. they were sleeping on the floor in the dining room of the hotel so there was a big tall guy who'd been to chicago. it was sent to the tribune. a big tall guy. his name was bruce grant. so he got into an argument trying to get him to release some of the rooms that he had
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taken over. so there they are standing in the middle of the dining room with the glass doors that open up to the garden and suddenly this little guy was still alive in the bronx some wherefore. he was about 5-foot five and hemingway and a grant for well over 6 feet and they were about to fight. harry harris runs in between them and goes like this looking up at them. so at this point, he strives of the glass doors into the garden it was dark. was evening and he closed the door and everybody waiting and we thought it was over and pretty soon he threw open the door she said are you coming out and fighting klaxon a couple days later i had an interesting experience. even though i didn't like him i was still in awe of him.
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i went into the second armored division and most of the correspondence stuck with the infantry division that went into paris because it was an american story from there. i'm in a jeep and it would always make me nervous being in a jeep in a line of tanks because if there was a fire or something they would poll the hatch down and they were perfectly safe and i wanted to be in with them and it's a perfectly open jeep, so it was fair game for any sniper, so the lead tank was hit by a german -- [inaudible] >> no, it was the 88-millimeter, and from a cement stockade median age or 10 miles out from paris so everybody closed up and there were three or four other
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command cars or jeeves on the line and i ran over into the field. there was a stone wall about 3 feet high but it was protected by the stone wall and i am looking for whoever is shooting at us and i see this forum over year and i look over and it's ernest hemingway. here i am probably 23-years-old trying to be a hard and a gold reporter and i thought your ibm behind a stone wall with ernest hemingway. i was pretty impressed with myself that day. [laughter] >> all right. >> i've noticed in the past couple of years there's been a renewed interest in the world war ii especially with books and films, most notably tom brokaw and some say private ryan that say how pivotal the world was coming in and about 20 years
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time there won't be any veterans around carried over history is probably the last great war where there was no question of being drafted or whatever in the world war ii what are your feelings and how are the future generations looking back on it? the great revival who steve ambrose had a good deal with that before tom datacom and it's a very interesting phenomenon. i am not sure that i understand it. world war two is better known as a war than any there ever was, and i was born one year after world war i ended or right at the end of the world war i and i grew up in the 20 years later, 20 years after world war i i knew nothing about world war i.
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there were a couple of songs i heard coming and i knew the date for those so i didn't know anything about world war i. my children 40 years after world war ii, they know a lot about world war ii. young people know a lot more about that whereas i knew nothing about verbivore one. part of it as there is no question the facility for recording information and passing it on to other people was vastly improved over what was in world war ii. the photography for example even the photography in world war ii was sketchy because there is no motion picture available of d-day. everybody thinks they've seen it but they are pictures of something else. one picture of four soldiers running up behind s with railroad ties that are crossed to prevent them from coming in and it's about eight or ten seconds that's all there is of the greatest invasion of
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history, the only pictures that exist to the great photographer took a lot of still pictures and one of the tragedies of the war it was ruined in the laboratory. he ended up with a few in his camera but it was tragic. the cameraman, the motion picture camera men were carrying 35-millimeter cameras that lead 117 pounds. they could not run around with them and they were all too old to be drafted, too said they were not in good shape. the motion picture camera and then. i never thought i'd live to see the day hollywood but turnout a picture that i thought accurately represented what i knew of world war ii.
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i suppose it is pride hoping hollywood can never do it and i will be damned saving private ryan did it. i was moved during that picture. i don't know as i was moved by all the things everyone else was. i remember they have a picture of some guy is sitting on the church steps just talking. it's so much like the way that happened. i don't know how he got it this accurately that more than anything i have ever seen except for my war of course what to give people an inaccurate impression that what happened after world war ii. >> that's three. islamic this is the last one. [laughter] there's one coming by disney that's called pearl harbor. it will have the raid and go to
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the flying tigers and a few others. >> that was the detailed juan that was so inaccurate. i was immune to hearing about the big picture but the little details made the war, live to people who didn't know it. i don't know what this will be like that if it is good. ischemic this controversy about a monument built in washington. >> i'm not too big with monuments. i've gotten in trouble with the veterans by saying i don't think veterans who got out of the war without being wounded or seriously hurt in any way i don't think they have anything coming from the rest of the country. we got what we want and that's a free country. i'm always a little put off by veterans who are asking for
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more. if the hospitalization, fine, the educational programs after world war ii for those that have been cheated out of it because they were drafted were just great. but veterans -- i don't even like the word that much. i am put offline see it on the bumper of a car. where was i? what was the question? the monument in washington i think it is right to have a monument to the people who died. it seems it is in the wrong place. it's going to screw up the grand avesta but i don't know whether it is a fait accompli or not. they're certainly should be a good monument for the people that died in world war ii but i am not sure that is where it ought to be.
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>> did you meet in murphy? >> he was in the pacific was and he? >> the fourth infantry division? i guess you're right eye was that a group, three of six and i was waiting for the bombers to come back and i would guess stories from what they had seen in germany so i got word the secretary of the war we called him the secretary of the war. it wasn't of the defense, was coming over and he was going to
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come to give a medal of honor this was a way of encouraging the troops and giving them some indication of the people back home remembered them and knew what they were doing so there was this one corporal sergeant on board who had been hit and he just did some great stuff. he peed on five-year to put them out so people wouldn't burn to death and he just ran around doing all sorts of heroic things at risk to his own life and he saved the lives of several people on board and he came back and it was a mess and barely landed without falling apart and so two weeks later the secretary of the war was going to come over and give him a medal of honor his name who was known as
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snuffy smith. the people on the dais, snuffy smith always screwed up. officers disliked snuffy smith but they had to admit he had done some grand things that they so he arrives with his entourage and of a lineup and they can't find snuffy smith. they dragged him out of the kitchen and put him in his uniform and upended the medal of honor on him. it was a big story in the stars and stripes because no soldiers stories have ever been like that. all right, when do i get to sign these books? i appreciate you coming. it was a good of you.
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>> thank you all so much for coming.
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>> is planning to write it dhaka preventing a fighting bull crises. in the book he will tell his own experience working on the u.s. financial crisis as well as the tenure as the president of the federal reserve bank of new york
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